40 cm f4.9 Duran(borosilicate) mirror
This one proved to be easier than the porthole!
Date | Work |
Dec. 2006 | 406×36 mm borosilicate disc bought from Jilles Eindhoven in Haaksbergen.He had already made a radius of 500 cm in it.Total cost: 325 euro |
Dec. 2006 | I used a 3 kg steel ring(diameter 15 cm,used in weightlifting) to bring the mirror to a focal length of about 195 cm ( radius 390 cm) .The work was done with straight strokes and W-strokes TOT.I made a grinding tool by casting a a layer of 55 mm plaster on the mirror.Around the mirror I had made a cardboard dam(2 mm thick) and also I put on a water resistant coating of vaseline.After the plaster had dried for one week I glued little ceramic tiles(19x19x2mm)on the plaster with the help of polyurethane glue( the two-component variety).Distance between the tiles ca 7 mm. |
Dec. 2006 | Mirror made spherical with the 40 cm tool and Carborundum 80After that work is continued with C120:1/4 W-stroke MOT and TOT. |
Jan 5, 2007 | C180 : 60 turns TOT and 40 turns MOT 1/3-1/4 W-stroke and straight stroke( also used for next powders)Carborundum suspension is added every two turns. Mirror edge is ground regularly to prevent chipping(first wth rough wetstone, later with 400 stone). |
Jan .6 ,2007 | C240 : 40 turns TOT and 20 turns MOT.I start with marking big pits near the edge of the mirror |
Jan 7, 2007 | C320 : 50 turns TOT |
Jan 8, 2007 | C320 100 turns TOT and 25 turns MOT : pits are gone |
Jan 9-11, 2007 | C600 : 100 turns TOTC800 : 100 turns TOTNo big pits: edge ground with 400 stone |
Jan 12, 2007 | 15 micron Aluminium oxyde: 52 turns TOT and 18 turns MOT |
Jan 13, 2007 | 9 micron aluminium oxyde:152 turns5 micron : 6 turns( there was only a little bit…)No pits |
POLISHING | |
JAN 15,2007 | Polishing was started with an old 35 cm pitchlap, made on a 350×50 mm plaster disc.Channels were made in the pitch with a 7mm stick.Test on Polaris after 45 min TOT: No astigmatism with 6.3 mm eyepiece. |
Jan 18,2007 | After 2 hrs TOT : big scratch on mirror!! |
Jan 28,2007 | 8 hours polished with 35 cm tool TOTW-stroke with max. 8 cm overhang.Edge of mirror is ground several times with a 400 stone.Reflection test with incandescent wire( old fashioned clear lamp focussed with a lens: reflection weak at center and strong near edge. |
Jan 30 | Polishing goes very slow. Therefore I use 10 kg weight on top of the tool. Polishing is now really tiring and I can only do 10 min sessions |
Feb.6 | Total polishing time now : 15 ¼ hour. Always W-stroke with max. 8 cm overhang |
Feb 10 | 17 hrs polishing .Temporarely stopped because of arm injury |
March 11 | I continue polishing with a 25 cm pitchlap. 35 cm lap has become very hard. |
March 18 | 24 hrs polishing (also 35 cm lap again, 2 hours)Reflection test: edge now very weak |
March 25 | W-stroke with 35 cm tool;6 cm overhangRonchitest: spherical with small TDE(turned down edge) |
CORRECTION
Step 1 April 1st,2007
I made a 40 cm pitchlap from Gugolz 55+64 .Pitch squares are 3,5×3,5 cm. I ddn’t check the hardness
Breaking in the lap: 35 min 1/3-1/4 straight stroke and 1/5 W-stroke with cerium oxyde (TOT)
Ronchi: TDE and weak hill in center
Fouc: no TDE ; diffraction ring around the whole mirror(!?)
Step 2
I start the correction with a 2 months old 20 cm pitchlap( with pitch squares tapered to the edge).Pitch has a 10 mm thickness .Polishing with 2 kg weight on the lap.
- Straight stroke 1 cm left of Center; 5 cm overhang: 10 min
- idem 5 cm left of C;5 cm overhang : 3 min
- idem 1 cm left of C; 5 cm overhang : 10 min
- idem 5 cm left of C ; 5 cm overhang : 3 min
- Large W-stroke (5 cm overhang): 2x 1 turn.
Pitchlaps are coldpressed between the different runs.
Ronchi: spherical with light TDE
Step 3 april 2
20 cm tool (tapered) with 2 kg weight.
a. straight stroke 1 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 10 min
- idem 5 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 3 min
- idem 1 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 10 min
- idem 5 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 3 min
- large W-stroke 5 cm overhang 3x 1 turn
Ronchi : lines start to bulge; R= 3890 mm
Step 4
20 cm tapered lap with 2 kg
a.Straight stroke 1cm left of C and 5 cm overhang: 7 min
b. idem 3 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 3 min
c. id 5 cm left ov C and 5 cm overhang : 2 min
I repeated this series once
Ronchi: lines bulging more but a kink is coming at r= 10 cm!
Step 5
20 cm tapered lap with 2 kg weight.
- Straight stroke 1 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 7 min
- idem 3 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 3 min
- idem 5 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 3 min
- Large W-stroke 2×1 turn
I repeated this series twice.
Ronchi:lines bulging more;weak kink at r=15 cm
Step 6
20 cm tapered lap with 2 kg weight
- Straight stroke 1 cm left of C ;5 cm overhang : 7 min
- idem 3 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 3 min
- idem 5 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 3 min
- idem 7,5 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 2 min
I repeated this series once
Ronchi: looks good!
Foucault test with 7 zone mask
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0,43 | 0,95 | 1,38 | 1,59 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Step 7
- Work more on center:
15 cm tapered lap (gugolz 55) with 2 kg weight:: straight stroke 1 cm left of C and 3-4 cm overhang: 2x 7 min
- 20 cm tapered lap with 2 kg weight
- straight stroke 1 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 6 min
- idem 3 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang :3 min
- idem 5 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 3 min
- idem 7,5 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 2 min
- Large W-stroke with 5 cm overhang : 2×1 turn
Ronchi: center a bit flat
Fouc:
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,18 | 0,44 | 0,84 | 1,35 | 2,0 | 2,35 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Too much difference between 5 and 6; outer zones polished too little.
Step 8
- Increase correction
15 cm tapered lap with 2 kg
a. straight stroke 1 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang:2×7 min
b. straight stroke 5 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang: 2×3 min
c. Smoothing the figure: 40 cm MOT ½ W-stroke overhang left and right 3 cm : 3x 1 turn with pressing in between.
Ronchi: OK, but central area a bit flat,it seems.(however : look at Fouc. Test!)
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,37 | 0,76 | 1,26 | 1,61 | 2,12 | 2,57 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Better! Large lap helps!
Step 9
- Increase correction
15 cm tapered lap with 2 kg
a. straight stroke 1 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang : 4x 5 min
b. idem 4 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang : 4x 2 min
2. Smoothing
20 cm tapered lap with 2 kg : large W-stroke 7×1 turn
Ronchi : there seems to be a TDE which I can’t see in the Foucault test.
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,50 | 0,91 | 1,42 | 1,91 | 2,54 | 3,14 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Edge zone gets lower..
Step 10
- Increase correction
15 cm tapered lap with 2 kg
a. straight stroke 1 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang : 5 min
b. idem 5 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang : 2 min
I repeat these sessions 3 times
2. Smoothing : 40 cm tool MOT ½ W-stroke with 5 cm overhang left and right: 4x 1 turn
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,69 | 1,03 | 1,54 | 2,14 | 2,75 | 3,33 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Too much correction between 1 and 2
Step 11
a.Increase correction, but now with 20 cm tapered lap with 2 kg
- Straight stroke 1 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang: 5 min
2. idem 5 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang : 2 min
I repeated thes sessions 2 times
- Straight stroke 2,5 cm left oc C and 5 cm overhang: 5 min
- idem 5 cm left of C and 5 cm overhang: : 2 min
I repeated this once
5. 20 cm lap( with 2 kg) large W-stroke with 5 cm overhang : 5×1 turn
6. Smoothing with 40 cm tool: MOT ½ W-stroke(5 cm overhang left and right 2×1 turn
7. 40 cm tool TOT ¼ straight stroke 1 turn
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,38 | 0,64 | 1,27 | 1,62 | 2,32 | 2,94 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Correction lowered by large tool!
Step 12 : deepen central area
-15 cm tapered lap with 2 kg
- Straight stroke 1 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang : 5 min
- idem 5 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang : 2 min
I repeated these sessions 5 times
3. same lap: large W-stroke 4 cm overhang : 3x 1 turn
4. 40 cm tool TOT 1/3 W-stroke (3 cm overhang left and right) 1 turn
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,66 | 1,14 | 1,79 | 2,36 | 2,99 | 3,69 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Difference 6-7 already a bit large !
Step 13
Try to avoid outer zones: correction within zone 6
- 15 cm tapered lap with 2 kg
straight stroke with edge of tool not further than r = 17 cm - 2 cm left of C : 5 min
- 5 cm left of C : 2 min
I repeated these sessions 2x
4. 40 cm tool : smoothing 1/3 W-stroke narrow : 1 turn
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,46 | 1,15 | 1,90 | 2,53 | 3,20 | 3,80 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Step 14
Deepen central area
- 15 cm tapered lap with 2 kg
Straight stroke 2 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang: 5 min
Idem 5 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang : 2 min
I repeated these sessions 2x
2. Smoothing with 40 cm lap TOT 1/3 W-stroke narrow: 2×1 turn
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,35 | 1,02 | 1,86 | 2,49 | 3,16 | 3,80 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Little change yet..
Step 15
I have to deepen the center
- 15 cm tapered lap: W-stroke within r=15 cm light pressure: 10 min
- elliptical stroke with 10 cm lap from r=-1 cm to r=+17 cm : light pressure 5 min. The middle of the tool passes from r=-1 to r=+17 cm
Ronchi: this was too much! Hole in center
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,82 | 1,52 | 2,52 | 3,16 | 3,87 | 4,48 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Step 16
Try to improve with 40 cm lap(not tapered) with 2 kg
1/3 W-stroke narrow: 2x 1turn
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 1,0 | 1,7 | 2,6 | 3,1 | 3,8 | 4,43 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Step 17
Work very carefully now
- Circular stroke with 10 cm tapered lap on r=10 cm.Light pressure 5 min
- Work on high edge:40 cm tol : ½ W-stroke 1 turn
Ronchi: kink at r=10 cm
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,82 | 1,65 | 2,39 | 3,09 | 3,71 | 4,31 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Lambda/4.9 on wavefront Strehl =0,91
Step 18
- work on zone near r=10 cm
10 cm tapered lap : circular stroke on r=10 cm with light pressure: 4 min
2. work on high edge: 40 cm lap MOT ½ W-stroke narrow 1 turn
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,58 | 1,37 | 2,19 | 2,84 | 3,52 | 4,15 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Lambda/7.7 on wavefront S=0,964
Step 19
40 cm tool : MOT 4/5 W-stroke left and right 5 cm overhang: 1 turn
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,66 | 1,47 | 2,19 | 2,85 | 3,47 | 4,20 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Lambda/5.8 wavefront error; S=0,92
Step 20
40 cm tool : same as step 19
Total correction 4,0 mm: undercorrection!
Step 21
Increase correction
- 15 cm tapered lap with 2 kg
straight stroke 2 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang: 5 min
idem 5 cm left of C and 4 cm overhang : 2 min
2. Smoothing with 40 cm tool 2/3 W-stroke narrow : 1 turn
Ronchi: looks very good
Foucault: 3-4 measurements
zone | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
Measurements | 0 | 0,71 | 1,31 | 2,23 | 2,82 | 3,65 | 4,29 |
parabola | 0 | 0,63 | 1,37 | 2,10 | 2,83 | 3,58 | 4,28 |
Lambda /22 wavefront error S=0,995
Startest May 30 ,2007 6,3 mm ortho: no astigmatism. Ronchilines straight
Good performer with expensive 8 cm secondary